controlling volume using m-audio delta control panel?

by **cowanrg** on Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:30 pm

i pretty much made the subject say it all... how can i control the master volume of the m-audio delta control panel via xlobby? i want to bypass my processor and use the HTPC as everything. i would need to control volume through the sound card of course.

im bypassing the windows volume control and its all handled through m-audio's control panel. i guess girder could do it, but is there something simpler? i use a PPC for all my contol, but i also have a streamzap remote as well.

by **cowanrg** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:23 pm

well, ive been working on this a lot, with no progress. here is what i've tried.

the control panel doesnt accept hotkeys outside the program. when the window is selected, the up and down key automatically control the master slider (its always selected, you dont need to click it first).

so, i tried doing a send message OS event. i downloaded that spy program to get the class name, and it was something like blah blah_mixer32 or something like that. i assume for the window name i just use the name of the window "m audio delta control panel". for the lparam i used 40, which is down, and 0 for iparam.

nothing happened. im not sure if i got the class name and window name right. for kicks, i tried xsendkeys, and it works, but it doesnt work to send commands to the m-audio program. i need something that will send a command to the m-audio program from within xlobby. any ideas?

by **Marbles_00** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:27 pm

Maybe XMoveWindow so you could at least view the interface in Xlobby, and control it directly, though I'm not sure if you'd be able to control it via PPC.

by **cowanrg** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:49 pm

i dont want the whole mixer panel to pop up every time i want to change volume. there has to be a simpler way.

by **P3rv3rt B3ar** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:54 pm

cowanrg wrote:i dont want the whole mixer panel to pop up every time i want to change volume. there has to be a simpler way.

Yeah there is... can that m-thingy and get cheap live/audigy cards from ebay.

by **samgreco** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:00 pm

P3rv3rt B3ar wrote:Yeah there is... can that m-thingy and get cheap live/audigy cards from ebay.

Very helpful. That "m-thingy" is one of the best sound quality cards out there.

To the OP, I have the same card and have not found a way to do it, and M-Audio didn't have an answer either. Since the card is typically used in recording environments, I don't think they really get what users like us are trying to do.

I, for one, will be watching closely.

by **P3rv3rt B3ar** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:29 pm

samgreco wrote:
P3rv3rt B3ar wrote:Yeah there is... can that m-thingy and get cheap live/audigy cards from ebay.

Very helpful. That "m-thingy" is one of the best sound quality cards out there.

To the OP, I have the same card and have not found a way to do it, and M-Audio didn't have an answer either.

Well... i hope u have such a speaker setup u can actually HEAR that quality difference

But what good that quality boost will do for u if u cant even control thingys volume, use it in multizone setup or have full access to cards DSP, adding filter for DRC for example...

by **tswhite70** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:36 pm

I know you said no Girder but there is a Girder GML file for it, so you should be able to just use Sendmessage in Xlobby:
http://www.girder.nl/downloads.php?mode ... cCode=1000

good luck,
tsw

by **samgreco** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:39 pm

Actually I do have speakers that are good enough to tell the difference, and I didn't think that was a prerequisite to getting help on something around here. Never used to be.

This is precisely the reason I chose to go with an external matrix switcher that is RS232 controlled. So I am not reliant on the sound cards volume controls.

I think it's time that you realize that (thankfully) not everyone thinks or sees things the same way you do. Your entitled to your opinion. Just not entitled to force it on us.

by **P3rv3rt B3ar** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:48 pm

For OP:

Anyways i started quite a while ago making a plugin much like kXd to control windows mixer, that would help with these issues with any card. Ofcourse it cannot achieve cool things with DSP control, like kXd on live/audigy family...

But i have so many coding projects and other stuff so it might take a while... just in case if anything else doesnt help with the issue mayby that eventually will. Just incase u still like to hold on your "m-thingy" for a while

For Sammy: Whatever!

by **cowanrg** on Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:53 pm

P3rv3rt B3ar wrote:
samgreco wrote:
P3rv3rt B3ar wrote:Yeah there is... can that m-thingy and get cheap live/audigy cards from ebay.

Very helpful. That "m-thingy" is one of the best sound quality cards out there.

To the OP, I have the same card and have not found a way to do it, and M-Audio didn't have an answer either.

Well... i hope u have such a speaker setup u can actually HEAR that quality difference

But what good that quality boost will do for u if u cant even control thingys volume, use it in multizone setup or have full access to cards DSP, adding filter for DRC for example...

you are an absolute MORON. i have about $30k worth of equipment in this system, and id appreciate if you dont "contribute" to threads you have no clue about ok? just accept the fact you are ignorant and go away.

by **Marbles_00** on Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:19 am

an absolute MORON. i have about $30k worth of equipment in this system

I'm sorry, but who has the working system :?:

30K later and your still wondering how to control an integral portion of it....not money well spent in my eyes...I wouldn't be calling anyone a moron that's for sure.

Don't get me wrong...I'd love to have an M-Audio card. Awesome specs from a very reputable company.

P3rv was just indicating that he's worked on an application which in time may be able to interface with the M-Audio mixer down the road.

Oh well...the peanut gallery will sit back down...shut up and watch how this interesting thread unfolds...it's become very entertaining to say the least.

by **cowanrg** on Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:29 am

another person who assumes too much...

i am currently using a processor for volume control. did you think of that one? probably not.

right now i have a processor doing all the volume control, so ive never needed to do volume control with the m-audio. but, i have little reason to use a procesor anymore, so im trying to transition it out.

the system works just fine right now, i want it to be better. its money well spent.

how come everyone has to be such a jerk all the time? i mean, im asking a question and i get basicaly ridiculed for having an m-audio? i probably shouldnt say that im actually buying a lynx 2b in a week, but im giving the m-audio to a friend who will be using the volume control function, and im just helping him figure it out, and trying to learn more.

im sure there are more cards than the m-audio that have this issue. not everyone uses the kmixer in windows, some of us need a way to control the volume separately. this is all pretty new stuff, its not like its convenient and easy. there are many tricky aspects of it, im just trying to figure them all out. i really dont need people who either dont have the money or the ears for nicer gear. its not my fault you cant hear the differences or cant afford nicer stuff.

by **cowanrg** on Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:41 am

tswhite70 wrote:I know you said no Girder but there is a Girder GML file for it, so you should be able to just use Sendmessage in Xlobby:
http://www.girder.nl/downloads.php?mode ... cCode=1000

good luck,
tsw

i didnt want to do girder just because i thought there would be a simpler way, but if there is a girder plugin, that will work, ill just have to learn girder. ill give it a shot and let everyone know if it works. if not, ill just dump it and get a soundblaster.

not.

by **P3rv3rt B3ar** on Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:53 am

cowanrg wrote:
you are an absolute MORON.

Well, there young padovan, u sound exactly like i use to at about 20 (or less) posts.

http://www.xlobby.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4290

Except i did lack that touch of fine delicate diplomacy of yours, i think u are actually fine material to serve next four year period at the white house...