Radio automatically fills playlist for one zone when....

[Marbles_00]

I have an external tuner connect to a line-in of one soundcard. This is being shoutcast streamed to the local network...

When I start XLobby for a specific skin, it automatically starts to play the URL of the shoutcast stream. I've gone to the playlist and cleared the entry, until the next time I start Xlobby....and it's back. I know it is skin specific as I can open up other skins, and the entry is not there, but for some reason when I open up this one in particular, the entry is there.

Just wondering if anyone else has had this and where to look for something like this.

Again it is skin specific. I've opened up that instance of winamp outside of xlobby, and there is nothing in the playlist. I've started Xlobby with other skins, and everything is clear. It's only this one skin when opened.

Thanks in advance.

[scottw]

Not sure I can help much since you have probably tried everything I would have but oh well here it goes:

I assume you don't have an event on Page Load, do you?

I do know that, on mine at least, when XL loads up the winamp copies that each one of them has the last song playing "queued up" and if I just hit play it will start playing that song and that song is in the playlist for me.
So in your case your shoutcast url may still be in there, but I did see where you said nothing was in the playlist.
Do you maybe have a play event somewhere that could be doing this?


Don't know if any of this helps but sometimes a fresh look at it may help.
If you want to send me your skin I can take a look with "fresh eyes" since you probably have been racking you brain with it.

Let me know.

[Marbles_00]

Thanks Scott,

Actually I was thinking about just distributing the skin "as is", but with all the other little bugs I'm seeing (the more recent Catagory display problems on the PPC), though using catagories for button display is cool and all, I'm starting to see alot of shortfalls. This skin is going to be difficult to setup with understanding the KX drivers, and PervTalk, I don't want to have any nuancess of this nature, otherwise poeple are just going to hate it, then I get flamed and banned...then I'll just , then I'll have to hitch up with Britney (the crazy babe).

I'm going to make some changes to it, most likely go away from buttons in catagories as a start (I've already done that with the PPC screens). This should take a couple of days to do, and see what problems I will have then.

If this problem is still persistant at that point, and I need a couple of individuals with fresh eyes, to look over something I just may have missed, then I will for sure keep you in mind. If would be good to give it to a few who have been exposed to KX, and PervTalk (kXd). I've started a document to setup the skin so the feedback would be pretty handy.

Thanks again.

[scottw]

Sure. If I can help just let me know.

[P3rv3rt B3ar]

Do me a favor... and before doing any radical changes try to run it without xPerT (just remove the dll for one run) and see if u experience problems without it.

Allthough i have not any special reason to suspect it, but fact is xPerT does some heavyduty screen updating... so its better to establish first if it is the cause or not...

[Marbles_00]

Nope, nothing to do with PervTalk.

It is always associating to the first zone, so I took it out. Then it just associated to the next zone to take the first zones place. So it has nothing to do with winamp itself. It is totally something in the skin that is causing this headache.

[Marbles_00]

I figured out the problem. It would appear that I had a bad .xml eventgroup file entry. I ended up deleting the file and re-entering the commands and now everything is working smooth.

Thanks to all for all the input.

[scottw]

How did you find that problem

[Marbles_00]

Well the problem only affected that skin. I also watched when a connection to the shoutcast server was made and at what time during Xlobby startup it made it at. Xlobby was at the "Preparing to Start" portion when it happened. So I figured that it was something to do with either a screen .xml file, database.xml file or event .xml file within the skin directory. I went through all the files to find anything that flagged the IP of the shoutcast server. The only one that did was the command I use to actually connect to the server in one file. I didn't think at the time that it was a problem.

I figured then that since it happens to only that skin, and I took a guess that it was one the above files that were the problem, I renamed one at a time until I found the one where once gone, Xlobby would not connect to the shoutcast server at startup. I also figured that it had something to do with the external tuner/shoutcast server, I concentrated on the .xml files that control those functions.

Well it payed off. I was also lucky to be running my previous skin to compare to. But for ease of use, I decided to wipe the file out and just re-enter the commands.

Why did this happen in the first place? One of two things I figure. The winamp instance I'm using for whole house audio had to be updated from v2.95 to v5.08 so I can take advantage of the multi-output plugin. I'm wondering if that retains details of somesort. Or the most likely thing was that I was experimenting with buttons in catagory/databases, and found alot of limitations. This problem may have been a resultant effect from that experiment.

[scottw]

Wow, way to narrow it down. Glad you got it working!!

[P3rv3rt B3ar]

Yeah me too... i have to say i would hated that something innovative like cat buttons would get ditched because of some stupid prob... great u found way around.

[Marbles_00]

Yeah, sorry P3rv, I did ditch the cat buttons. Reason's being:

If more then one category on screen, category page buttons had to be tied specifically to a category to control next/previous. This meant more events instead of one generic event to do it.

Could not exit client when exit button is within catagory...big problem and a bug report was entered.

Until togglecats (which unfortunately I didn't get a chance to try), even the simplest toggle states could not be done.

Thin client on PPC does not display catagories as they show up on the server. Bug report initiated for that as well.

Oh well, maybe next time.

[P3rv3rt B3ar]

I really think u gave up bit too fast.

I dont see any of those points except mayby last one, as a showstopper, and i believe last one is somehow related to weird cat behavior weve seen lately... i guess dalanik was first one to report it but ive been witnessing those cat props too... so i think it is really something which needs to be fixed... (could u mayby try somewhat older exe to see if my theory holds any truth, like september 9th mayby)

But rest:

well obviously first one is bit more work but its unavoidable.

exit problem, i believe, solves itself if u route it trough plugin.

togglecats might not work for very complex situations... but they could be made to. simple toggling they do just fine.

Ok then the advantages... skin could be truly modular. Lets say i manage to force my lazy ass to work and make panda device ive been planning for sometime. and somebody wants to add it to your skin, there are ofcourse two ways:

-(Way 1 Today) he makes regular changes to his skin. And he completes it publishes screen shots and its all nice. soon everybody wants to add pandora to their setup. but probs is its shit load of work to diy... and our original hero cannot distribute his additions to skin easily... except in form of whole skin, which u might not like, or mayby he changed skin some other (crappy) ways too... or mayby people who would like to install his pandora part have themselves made changes to your skin so they cannot simply just take and overwrite whole skin.

-(Way 2 Tomorrow) Our hero makes his screen using my panda device adds buttons it needs to your databases... and takes whole bunch of addations and converts them to simple executable with installer the french boys made (mayby some "include in db" features are needed to be added to installer)... now we have noob coming in and he sees screenshots of your skin and fells in love with it... but he also likes to listen pandora and cant even think about having xlobby with it... only prob is this noob doesnt know shit, he barely manages plugin printer to usb port... but because there is pandora module for zoneskin available, even he manages to download this executable... and run it... and behold... soon he is playing his favorite station "Jelena karleusa (with da bOObs )"on pandora with zoneskin3 in garage, while his girlfriend is listening "lacrimosa" station in bedroom and kids are listening "XUXA" station in living room. (for those who havent been in brazil lately... she is total family entertainment package... makes both kids and adult entertainment )

[Marbles_00]

Trust me, I still like the use of catagory buttons...my original thinking was the fact that to add a button for an extra zone say, just go to the database, add the text and attach an event to it...done.

Who know, I may just release a varient of the skin totally using catagories in the future. If I ever get around to building a HTPC, it will most likely either be using the Reduex II skin or a varient of MediaX which uses catagory buttons. I think they're great...just not developed enough for me for ZoneSkin3