owain_thomas, for some reason, the webserver and regular server won't both work in one of my PC's but both work in my other PC. Do you have both servers started?
No, I was only using the regular server to start with, then I found out about the web server, turned the regular one off and started using just the web one, since that everything's been fine.
oh yeah, had no problems pinging between the two machines.
as the web server/client works so well I don't think I'll bother trying to get the regular one to work, especially if its slower like most people seem to find.