Tagging weirdness

[rembetis]

I've found that occasionally Xlobby picks up tagging information that I cannot seem to find in my music files. I use Tag & Rename, and have deleted databases and started over, only to have the same mistakes pop up again (examples include artist/album reversals and mismatched naming of two-disc sets, etc.).

Rather than fixing each one of these in my database, I'd like to know for sure how to avoid it.

All my files are FLAC and use FLAC/APE tags. Are there "hidden tags" that Xlobby is picking up somehow?

Also, is there any way to update tagging information once imported w/o deleted the entire database and manually adjusting within Xlobby?

[rembetis]

Hate to do it, but I have to bump this one up to the top. I'm still having frequent situations in which Xlobby is sorting with tag information not visible in my tagger, e.g. misnamed albums, album/artist reversals, inconsistently named multi-album sets, etc.

Obviously the music was mis-tagged to begin with, but even after I re-tag properly, delete my database, and start from scratch Xlobby imports using these old, "hidden" tags.

Has no one else experienced this? The only remedy I've discovered is to decode to wav, recode to FLAC (w/o tags) and then use Tag & Rename. This takes a lot of time and I'd like to simply use T & R to root out these old/bad tags if possible...

[hvs69]

Hate to do it, but I have to bump this one up to the top. I'm still having frequent situations in which Xlobby is sorting with tag information not visible in my tagger, e.g. misnamed albums, album/artist reversals, inconsistently named multi-album sets, etc.

Obviously the music was mis-tagged to begin with, but even after I re-tag properly, delete my database, and start from scratch Xlobby imports using these old, "hidden" tags.

Has no one else experienced this? The only remedy I've discovered is to decode to wav, recode to FLAC (w/o tags) and then use Tag & Rename. This takes a lot of time and I'd like to simply use T & R to root out these old/bad tags if possible...

I am using Tag & Rename too. All my files are mp3 format and I have poplulated the id3v2 tags (actually in a foreign language, since xlobby natively supports unicode tags). I have never seen this behavior. It is very weird that you are seeing your old tags even after deleting them. Are you sure that Tag & Rename is deleting them properly ? IN the past I have seen that when you are in "All" mode and delete all the tags, the tags still exist in "ID3V1" mode !! So I had to delete them twice. I don't have any personal experience with FLAC/Ape tags but maybe something like this is happening to you.

[rembetis]

Thanks for the reply hvs69. It's hard to say whether Tag & Rename is deleting all the tags or not. Nothing at all shows up in either the ID3V1 or ID3V2 fields. The only tags I see are in the Ogg/Flac field. However, I do use Exact Audio Copy to rip, and I believe it does rely on ID3 tags present in the freedb database to name and/or tag files after ripping. All my problem filesets were ripped with EAC, so I think ID3 has something to do with it. I just can't figure out what...