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Touch screen help

Postby ken on Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:41 pm

I have been playing with X for a few months. I just got a touch panel (Airpanel VP150).

I'm very slowly trying to get things setup for my self.

My question is with the way the touch screen works.

Before I installed my touch screen I used the mouse. Moving it over the main menu it would show a graphic as it passed over a button.

Now when I touch the button it reacts as if I did a mouse click.

The mouse is on my screen and works as before but it's about as usfull as tit's on a bull.

I'm using the Heavy Metal skin.

Thanks.


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Postby Colby on Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:12 pm

I dont understand the problem. Touchscreens have no mouse over state. You touch the icon or button, it reacts... thats the point. There is no doubleclicking, there is no selection hover, there is no right clicking (unless you change click option). Touchscreens are pretty straight forward. Now what do you want it to do?
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Postby ken on Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:33 pm

Colby wrote:I dont understand the problem. Touchscreens have no mouse over state. You touch the icon or button, it reacts... thats the point. There is no doubleclicking, there is no selection hover, there is no right clicking (unless you change click option). Touchscreens are pretty straight forward. Now what do you want it to do?


This might be a skin issue. Using Heavy M on the startup screen. after selecting a choice. There is a breif graphic pic displayed in the window to the right. When I return to the main screen and select another choice. the images keep piling up in the window. After a few selections. The graphics are displayed on top of each other. This happens in the main window.

As far as a touch screen. There is no highlight, just select. I think this may be where the problem is.

I'm not trying to say there is a problem. I'm just trying to see if I need to change some things to acomadate using a touch screen. And the even bigger problem of not knowing what the hell i'm doing...
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Postby Colby on Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:42 pm

Ken wrote:And the even bigger problem of not knowing what the hell i'm doing...

Oh I hear ya! I have that problem a lot.
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Postby hjackson on Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:07 am

"This might be a skin issue."

It is.

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Postby BaddaBing on Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:40 am

Its not a skin issue, it has to do with how xlobby works in conjunction with a touchscreen. If you bear with me I will explain...

To create mouse over images in xlobby you assign a 'show and hide' event to a button. In simple terms, it tells xlobby:

    when the curson is over the button (cursor enter) make a picture visible

    when the cursor moves off the button (cursor exit) hide it again
With me so far? Now, try this little experiment with xlobby and a mouse:

    Using the mouse place your cursor over a button with an associated show/hide image. Notice how when the mouse enters the area of the button that the image appears.

    Now, press (BUT DO NOT RELEASE) the left mouse button

    Drag the cursor off the button without releasing the button

    Note how the image does not disappear when the cursor leaves the button

    Release the mouse button

    Notice that the image still does not disappear and that the button is now stuck in the 'down' (or for all you skinners - the '-enter') position.

    And it will stay that way until you mouse back over the button again.

So when an image 'sticks' just mouse on and off (cursor enter - cursor exit) the associated button and everything goes back to normal.
Problem is that on a touchscreen there is never a 'cursor exit' So the images sometimes just pile up.

That is why I gave HeavyMetal users the option of two different menu screens. One with all the animated graphics and one with just the pushbuttons.

This screen with all the animated graphics is for use with a mouse
Image

And this one without the animated graphics is for touchscreens
Image

To use the 'button only' menu:
shut down xlobby

go to the HeavyMetal directoy and rename the file menu.xml to menu_bak.xml

rename the file menu2.xml to menu.xml

restart xlobby

Forgive me for being so long winded :wink:
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Postby ken on Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:56 am

BaddaBing wrote:Its not a skin issue, it has to do with how xlobby works in conjunction with a touchscreen. If you bear with me I will explain...

To create mouse over images in xlobby you assign a 'show and hide' event to a button. In simple terms, it tells xlobby:

    when the curson is over the button (cursor enter) make a picture visible

    when the cursor moves off the button (cursor exit) hide it again
With me so far? Now, try this little experiment with xlobby and a mouse:

    Using the mouse place your cursor over a button with an associated show/hide image. Notice how when the mouse enters the area of the button that the image appears.

    Now, press (BUT DO NOT RELEASE) the left mouse button

    Drag the cursor off the button without releasing the button

    Note how the image does not disappear when the cursor leaves the button

    Release the mouse button

    Notice that the image still does not disappear and that the button is now stuck in the 'down' (or for all you skinners - the '-enter') position.

    And it will stay that way until you mouse back over the button again.
So when an image 'sticks' just mouse on and off (cursor enter - cursor exit) the associated button and everything goes back to normal.
Problem is that on a touchscreen there is never a 'cursor exit' So the images sometimes just pile up.

That is why I gave HeavyMetal users the option of two different menu screens. One with all the animated graphics and one with just the pushbuttons.

This screen with all the animated graphics is for use with a mouse
Image

And this one without the animated graphics is for touchscreens
Image

To use the 'button only' menu:
shut down xlobby

go to the HeavyMetal directoy and rename the file menu.xml to menu_bak.xml

rename the file menu2.xml to menu.xml

restart xlobby

Forgive me for being so long winded :wink:


THANKS for explanation. I had played with a mouse on my Touch screen and saw the same results.

I was one step ahead, I had found the Menu2 for my startup, but could not find a way to redirect back to the menue2 when using the home buttons.

Thanks again
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