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Multiroom HTPC

Postby tintin_dk on Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:14 pm

Hi,

I would like to build my own low power multiroom HTPC. I think of using the audio for 2-3 (later maybe 5-7 rooms). Mainly for Mp3 and internet radio with a local wireless PDA? for controlling. The HTPC must be hidden in our kitchen we everything is contolled.

Is this possible - what would be the best setup? Any good ideas?

Looking forward to hear from you guys :D

Regards,
Michael
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Re: Multiroom HTPC

Postby Marbles_00 on Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:47 pm

Do you want each zone to be able to play differnet sources (multiple instances of winamp playing...each zone can then tap into whatever source)? Or one source supplies all the zones?

If looking at scenario one, some guy here has a multi-zone setup/xlobby skin that may suit your needs. He's gone through all the headaches of setting it up and explaining how he did it. I think the skin is called...what was it called...ZoneSkin4? Just can't remember who the hell the guy is though :wink: .

But hey, there are lot's of options you could take.

Oh and by the way. Welcome to xlobby.
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Re: Multiroom HTPC

Postby tintin_dk on Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:18 pm

Hi,

Thanks for your answer :-)

So far I am aware that options are many - but wich one should I choose..... I will try to look into the mentioned skin!

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Michael
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Re: Multiroom HTPC

Postby tintin_dk on Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:51 pm

Hi again,

Now I have insalled YOUR nice skin ;-) It looks like many hours was spend on it :shock:

If I use your skin can I control the zones locally by e.g. RF remote? What about the TV, Internet etc. that is not in, do I have 2 run 2XL versions then to have it all?

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Re: Multiroom HTPC

Postby Marbles_00 on Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:10 pm

Gees that was me that did the skin? :lol:

Yeah, it is totally geared as a music server, and I stripped alot of the extras out, but with some time, and patience, stuff can be added.

I don't have an RF remote, I'm purely controlling the system via PPC, but if you have something that is already connected to the computer (ATI type of remote I just found out the other day), then you should be able to setup some additional/modify current events to remote control the skin. You will just have to look on the forums to find out how others have setup control using a RF remote, then get aquainted with skinning. Takes time, but the learning process is soooo much fun. As I've said before (maybe not exactly this way but...), consider my skin as a template. Once you have an understanding of how it works, then have all the joy in the world changing it to work better in your setup.

Internet control could be added, just by adding the extra screens. Following some skins geared to more general HTPC uses, you could strip from them the things you need and add them to this skin, no problems. I've done a skin called Mirage that I have different types of "internet" access...from browser, to RSS feed, to YouTube video, and webcam images. Download skin's by Buddabing (can be found on sharp's googlepages...look for posts by sharp_1, then click on his link in his signature), or Colby's skins. I've found them to be riddled with information to learn and use in for my own creations.

Adding TV, in that, do you mean distributing just the audio around to different zones, or are you meaning video as well? First, is the TV input from a set-top box? or is it a tuner card? If via set-top, then you could do something like what I have done with my AM/FM tuner, and that is by inputting the signals into the sound card's line-in, then setting up that particular input in the KX drivers. To let you know, the next phase of my project will be building a 4x2 Audio Matrix switch, which will alow for an additional 3 sources along with the tuner to be plugged into the two soundcards line in and then users on the mainfloor will then be allowed to select different external devices to listen to from users upstairs. This way along with the tuner, I can have an IPOD dock, TV, and DVD player and users can select to listen to music or soundtracks per floor...as opposed to the current setup where the only external device is a tuner, and all users on both floors only have the option of listening to the same station. If I pull this off, man-o-man, this will give 3 sources of MP3/shoutcast playback, and upto 4 sources of external device playback PER floor (and then add the whole house audio source too).

Anyways back on topic, if your thinking of running video too, then there will be some work involved. I'm not sure how many video outputs you can run from one system. One of the easier options is then to set up additional xlobby's as fat clients on your network. Store all the video on the main HTPC in shared directories, then each fat client that connects will copy the databases over, allowing playback of media that way. One day, if I ever get a main HTPC setup for myself, I'm going to be doing something along that lines but with my music. It will connect to the music server and be able to access all the music direct from the server as opposed to storing all the music on the HTPC as well.

Oh boy, lot's of options.
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Re: Multiroom HTPC

Postby tintin_dk on Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:12 pm

Hi again,

Wouw it looks like you have been working a lot with this software :-) I think it sounds very interesting and maybe one day Iwill spend all my spare time on developing :->

In the kitchen the htpc must be hidden and used as webbrowser, internetradio, mediaplayer, calendar, slideshow and DVB.

Other rooms must only be able to listen to stored music on the HTPC as well as internet radio. All rooms must be controlled individually with eg an RF remote. At the moment I am not looking for any video distribution because all rooms are equipped med PC/TV.

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Michael
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Re: Multiroom HTPC

Postby Marbles_00 on Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:21 am

Other rooms must only be able to listen to stored music on the HTPC as well as internet radio. All rooms must be controlled individually with eg an RF remote. At the moment I am not looking for any video distribution because all rooms are equipped med PC/TV.


Okay you have two options to think about here. Do you want to run some individual speakers to the other zones, and have them fed from the main HTPC to an amplifier? Or were your intentions on using the existing media solutions that exist in the rooms already? The first option, and the easiest way, if intentions are to go that route, is to do something similar to what I have done. Only thing is to set it up for using the RF remote. The second option is to have a copy of xlobby on each machine. Each one could run their own unique skin, and to run them as "fat" clients. A fat client is a full copy of xlobby that when it connects to the server during startup, the databases are copied over from the server, and all media is run/streamed from the server (or in this case your main HTPC). Each client will be considered a zone in this case. The only thing with this is that it is difficult to keep clients in sync if you want to run the same music to them at the same time (multi-room sync mode). EIther option you will have to run the main HTPC as the XNET server.

See, lot's of options to think about.
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