Another Music Help Question

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Postby rembetis on Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:16 pm

Check this thread. The French Team just created (yet another great) tool that might prove very helpful for you.
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Postby dgemily on Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:51 pm

rembetis wrote:Check this thread. The French Team just created (yet another great) tool that might prove very helpful for you.


Thanx rembetis for forwarding the thread ;)
In fact it’s not really a “new” tool it’s done since some month ago ( by m51) but I didn’t get a time to post an English documentation and the tool will get some add-on ( more functionalities ;) )
But anyway you can see every French release (except releases only for French users) on this thread: http://www.xlobby.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1979
Or at the end of the homepage (xlobby.com) or in my signature...
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Postby a06lp on Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:25 pm

Marbles_00 wrote:I think, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, the only reason to really sort them in a particular directory structure, is to help keep a clean system. Again I'm not too sure, but it may be used initially to set up a database (in particular, used to set up the display naming convention), but maintaining it is all in the tags.


Thanks for your responce.
I spent 5 hours with Colby last night on IM, and I'm pretty sure the directory structure DOES matter, (though I still cannot figure out WHY.)
Basically, if all my mp3's are in one folder ("Music"), my databases never are able to be the way I want.
If I sort them into "Music\Artist\Album\Track", I can get them how I want. Unfortunately, I hate this directory structure on my system. :(

I wish some ex-Meedio users like us could post some skins or tutorials so others can more quickly learn to think in XL style, as opposed to Meedio style.
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Postby m_masta on Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:24 pm

This may also be related to how the metamask is configured to import the music files. Unfortunately, I don't know how to adust the masks very well, but essentially with a proper metamask you can import any arbitrary directory structure.

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Postby a06lp on Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:50 pm

m_masta wrote:This may also be related to how the metamask is configured to import the music files. Unfortunately, I don't know how to adust the masks very well, but essentially with a proper metamask you can import any arbitrary directory structure.


Ive seen a number of posts suggesting meta masks, but i have yet to see anyone post about how to use them.
Does anyone understand meta masks?
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Postby m_masta on Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:01 pm

a06lp wrote:
m_masta wrote:This may also be related to how the metamask is configured to import the music files. Unfortunately, I don't know how to adust the masks very well, but essentially with a proper metamask you can import any arbitrary directory structure.


Ive seen a number of posts suggesting meta masks, but i have yet to see anyone post about how to use them.
Does anyone understand meta masks?

If you look in the Documentation forum, you'll see a request for help on it to no avail at this point. I might just have to dig in there and see if I can figure something out :D
You can look at this: http://www.xlobby.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... t=metamask
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Postby a06lp on Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:13 pm

I really wish Steve would read this post.

Hvaing a single directory (with no subdirectories) containing all of my mp3 files SHOULD NOT affect how XLobby reads the id3 tags.
I should still be able to sort Artist>Album>TrackNumber-TrackName without any problems, since I am NOT checking "use directory structure" on the import screen, and I AM checking ID3 import.
But for some reason, when I do this, my DB becomes:
Various Artists > Various Albums > (One large list of ALL my songs)

But, again, this makes no sense, since it should not be looking at my directory structure AT ALL!!! :evil: :x
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Postby m_masta on Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:17 pm

try importing with a single mp3 file or just a few at first and see if it properly tags it. You can create a new db to test it out.
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Postby a06lp on Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:29 pm

When i make a new folder "testmusic" and put one mp3 in there, it is correctly tagged in the db: Linkin Park > Reanimation > KRWLNG

Adding more songs from the same album (by the same artist) to the "testmusic" folder, I still get correct taging: Linkin Park > Reanimation > (list of tracks)

Adding another song by Linkin Park, but from a Different album, results in this: Linkin Park > Various Albums > (list of tracks)

Adding other artists to the mix, i get back to: "various artists" > "various albums" > (list of all tracks)





PS - metamasks probably wouldn't work here. they seem to work directly on file structure, as opposed to ID3 tags...
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Postby m_masta on Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:51 pm

It seems that at the very least, the program expects you to have the albums in individual folders. That's not to say you need to make a structure like:

"c:\music\genre\artist\album1" and "c:\music\genre\artist\album2", but instead you need at least a structure like this:
"c:\music\album1", "c:\music\album2"
with that structure, you would import "c:\music" and select id3 and also display as "Genre>Artist>Album" and it would do the trick.
I understand it would be nice to simply have:
"c:\music\" and just put all MP3's there, but it doesn't seem to work this way. Perhaps Steven can address this better.

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Postby a06lp on Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:11 pm

yeah, i see that.

i just don't understand why it has to be like that.

steven - if you're reading this, please implement/fix this!
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