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USBUIRT Help

Postby showmethehtpc on Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:12 pm

Hello.

Can anyone let me know how you are suppose to setup USBUIRT to control Xlobby? I can't find any detailed step by step instructions online.

1. USB-UIRT plugged in with updated drivers installed.
2. Xlobby2 pressed F2 and learned the commands for UP,Down,Left,Right and enter under Xlobby-xlobby-xlobby device.

3. Went to Event and navigation showing the Left,right,down,right and enter.

4. Click on the " trigger" tab on the right and made sure those commands are listed under the Xlobby-Xlobby-Xlobby device.

5. Hit test for UP and it moved up, hit test for down and it moved down,etc..

When I closed the control screen with F2 and tried it on the remote, nothing happened.

Please let me know what steps I misses or how I can trouble shoot this problem.

Thanks so much for your help!
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Postby bmblank on Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:27 am

Ditto to the max.
I know, everybody is gonna be suggesting xremote and girder, but xlobby HAS the capability. I've had it working before (old xlobby, before usbuirt mysteriously went "offline"), but why will it not work now (with the latest xlobby)?
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Postby showmethehtpc on Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:19 am

bmblank wrote:Ditto to the max.
I know, everybody is gonna be suggesting xremote and girder, but xlobby HAS the capability. I've had it working before (old xlobby, before usbuirt mysteriously went "offline"), but why will it not work now (with the latest xlobby)?


Are you saying that Xlobby 1 has it working but Xlobby2 has an issue with USB-UIRT?

I read in some of the post that the USB-UIRT was suppose to be the most easy method to get IR Remote control abilities in Xlobby.

Can anyone tell me if they have got the USB-UIRT to work using the regular Xlobby built-in plugin?

My USB-UIRT shows it as

1. Being Online
2. Able to learn IR controls
However I can't get to the point that it can actual control the Xlobby.

Have anyone on here be able to get this working with the build-in USB-UIRT Plugin that came with Xlobby?

Thanks.
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Postby Naylia on Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:01 pm

Have you set up IR Triggers attached to events? If you don't know what that means, that's ok too. Just need to figure out where you are at.
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Postby bmblank on Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:09 pm

I've set up all navigation events (not in the skins folder, but the navigation folder) with triggers corresponding to the remote (in my case it's a Russound programmable remote, but I've also tried with our replay remote). I've "learned" the remote codes. I even learned our Replay remotes "pause", then hit the transmit button and it paused the replay, so it's learning it correctly. It sounds like ShowMe is at the same point I am, except for the transmit part. The problem is somewhere between the event and the ir plugin..
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Postby bmblank on Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:37 am

I'm gonna have to bump this cause i'm.... Annoyed, to say the least.
To recap:
1. Xlobby learns the commands correctly and I have proven this by hitting transmit and it paused the tv.
2. I added the IR trigger to the corresponding event. The event works properly when the test button is hit.
C. My assurance that the USBUIRT is receiving the signal is that it learns the code every time, so what would be different about it recieving to trigger something? Not a 100% sure thing that the signal is getting from the remote to the computer, but considering, theres a pretty good chance it's getting there.

In the past, before the USBUIRT went "offline" I had it working (semi)correctly I'm pretty sure using the same remote codes, so I'm pretty sure it's not the remote being a toggle type or sending out wierd codes.
So that's my deal. Hopefully this is helping out ShowMe as well, considering I kinda piggy-backed. Alright, it's bedtime now. Thanks in advance hopefully.
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Postby showmethehtpc on Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:21 am

Please let me know if this looks right.

I believe I have assign the event to the IR command of my remote control.

The USB-UIRT learns the codes. the Light is blinking indicating that its getting the signal from the remote.

I feel that perhaps there is something wrong with how I setup the trigger.

Please look at these screen shots to see if it looks right or if I'm missing something

thanks for your help.

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Postby bmblank on Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:20 pm

Though I've made a new device it is the same setup that I have. The only difference is my anti-repeat defaulted at 500. I'm sure there are people out there not using girder. I wonder how...
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Postby Naylia on Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:13 pm

I remember there being something slightly odd about the learning process that wasn't intuitively obvious my first time through. Sounds like everything else is working fine for you. I'll get online tonight and look at my setup for you and try documenting learning a command step by step.
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Postby Marbles_00 on Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:49 pm

Though I'm only using the USB-UIRT to send IR commands to a Yamaha AM/FM Tuner, I haven't tried to use it for navigation yet. But have you setup the navigation orientation (if that is the right statement) for your buttons in the skin? For example, the main menu you have defined a default button, from there have you pathed where to go if you push up/down/left/right for that button? Otherwise, I don't know if how Xlobby is supposed to know where to go if you push a directional button and it hasn't been defined.

Skins may or may not be designed for stuff like that. Skins from Buddabing I would imagine don't have specific button navigation as he tends towards using a touchscreen for example.

Basically what I mean is if you go to the skin editor and look for the tab "Navigation", then highlight a button, click on one of the directions in the editor. If a button has been defined to navigate to, then a green box will show around the button. Otherwise, you will have to define the button to goto for any direction.

Hope this helps.
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Postby Naylia on Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:58 pm

The IR code looks too short to be an entire IR code...I feel like mine are all 3 or 4 lines long.

You could try downloading my skin...XLobbyMC...which has a pregenerated IR file/all set up with XRemote in place and you just need to learn the codes in the USB-Uirt plugin and see if that works.
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Postby bmblank on Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:10 pm

Marbles, that's a good point, I wasn't thinking about that this time around.
Unfortunately, I have already done that a while ago. "Test"ing the navigation events should do just want the remote is going to do (considering the remote is just saying "run this event"). When using the test button from the events page the events work properly.
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Postby showmethehtpc on Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:50 pm

Update:

1. I have verified the Event does the auction is should do with the " TEST"
2. I have verified the USB-UIRT has the correct codes by testing it. If I press " up on my remote", it will go to the " UP" in the IR plugin., When I press down, it will go to the " Down" in the IR plug in page.

3. I have assign the events to the IR Trigger name.

Yet still when I'm in Xlobby, it will not trigger the navigation(up,down,left,right,enter)

I'm using the most recent Xlobby2 on the download with the microsoft .NET framework 2.0

Please let me know what else it could possible be?

Thanks for your help.
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Postby Colby on Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:46 pm

Is there really no documentation on USB-Uirt? I always assumed there was. I thought steven wrote a piece showing how to use it. Anyway I dont use Girder only USB-Uirt and Xremote. Xremote so I can have same button= different event per screen, and a shift function. But the IR stuff is all Usb-Uirt.

My newest skin in progress is Touchscreen / Remote friendly. Works fine, (latest builds).

Here is what I did:
1. Created the device in the IR Plugin of setup. (mine is a Universal Remote Control MX-600)
2. I added all of the functions of my remote, renamed and sorted.
3. To learn the IR:
    A. Select the device function (ie. UP)
    B. Click Set button, ID field turns green, then press the corresponding button on my remote. Atop it will say status Recieved ID: #######, etc.
    C. Continued like this until entire device was mapped.
    *note_ This only learns input from a remote, to learn transmit from the buttons you must use learn under the transmit button. Dont get these confused.

Now that the remote plugin knows what buttons are what, you goto your event manager in the setup tab. Here you select the event (Navigation>UP), it will have an XL event Up you will add a trigger by clicking the triggers tab. You then click IR tab, and the alias of the device (your remote device) and the command (up) then add. What this does is tie the IR trigger to the XLobby event Up. Basically saying Pressing Up on the remote, is the same as using Xlobby event up. I found this all pretty straight forward.

*However if you ever plan on using Xremote plugin, which I would recommend, I would set things up differently. Saves yourself some redundancy, and gives you more control. You should follow the instructions for Xremote 1st, then map whats left. Thats another topic.
Good Luck.
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Postby bmblank on Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:16 am

You would think that it would work just like that... Unfortunately it doesn't. I'm kinda thinking there is a bug in there, perhaps caused by software conflicts or something... Any ideas?
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